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- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 13 Apr 94 Volume 94 : Issue 413
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- Today's Topics:
- 99999
- Final Report of the ARRL on Preferred Callsigns
- FT-530 mod (AGAIN!!)
- Heinous? hardly
- Katashi Nose, KH6IJ, 1916-1994 (3 msgs)
- Need PL Tone Gen Design
- Working AO-21 with TH-78A
-
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-
- Date: 13 Apr 94 20:19:14 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!gtewd.mtv.gtegsc.com!reina@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: 99999
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am looking for a design of a cheap, simple PL tone generator to put on an
- older, crystal controlled 2 meter mobile rig. Using different tx and rx
- crystals, I can get the 600 Khz offset for a repeater, but I need a PL tone
- generator to open the repeater. All suggestions appreciated.
-
- Thanks,
-
- Andy KD6WXM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:58:46 GMT
- From: pacbell.com!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com!marcbg@ames.arpa
- Subject: Final Report of the ARRL on Preferred Callsigns
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Posted April 11, 1994
-
- This file contains the Final Report of the ARRL Ad-Hoc Committee
- on Preferred Callsigns
-
- Committee Members:
- Mr. Steve Mendelsohn, WA2DHF, Chairman
- Mr. Frank Butler, W4RH
- Mr. Tom Comstock, N5TC
- Mr. John Kanode, N4MM
- Mr. Brad Wyatt, K6WR
-
- Executive Summary
-
- The Committee was created by President Wilson to recommend a
- response to the Board in P.R. Docket 93-305, the Vanity Callsign
- proposal. The charter from President Wilson included a request
- that member input be sought in the limited time before the March
- 7, 1994, filing deadline.
-
- To accommodate this request Vice Director Rothberg and the
- chairman conducted a survey of our respective divisions using
- packet radio, mail and a request to newsletter editors to
- reproduce the survey form for club input. Over 730 responses
- have been received and tallied. Numeric results track with
- anecdotal results seen in member letters to Headquarters.
-
- The Board family has been especially helpful in forwarding and
- recounting comments from the field. Directors Burden, Comstock,
- Gordon, Heyn, Kanode, Lewis, Olson, Wyatt, Vice Directors
- Brackob, (monitoring the discussion on CompuServe) Brown, Frahm
- and Rothberg have forwarded member response by mail, through
- Headquarters and electronically to the Committee.
-
- Executive Vice President Sumner made members aware of the
- Committee's work through an editorial and article in February,
- 1994, QST. EVP Sumner and VEC Manager Jahnke provided the
- Committee with an excellent option paper on electronic submission
- of license requests by various means.
-
- Recommendations
-
- 1. Who Should Participate
-
- The Committee recommends that the Board adopt the position that
- all amateurs be eligible for participation in the program after
- an initial phase in period.
-
- While 7% of the respondents to the survey were against the
- program entirely and another 3.5% wanted to limit the program to
- General class and above, the majority of comments received
- welcome the creation of the program while recognizing that some
- method of initial filtering must be used to keep the FCC from
- being inundated with applications in the beginning.
-
- 2. The issue of Fees
-
- The fee quoted in the Docket, $7.00 per year collected for the
- length of grant of license (10 years), was set by Congress in the
- Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993. To change the amount or type
- of fee would require the League to commit its efforts in the
- Congress toward changing the fee.
-
- The Committee recommends that the League seek such relief in
- favor of a one time administrative processing fee with the
- understanding that no amateur licensee should incur a user fee.
-
- There is no periodic processing expense related to this program
- after the initial look-up work has occurred. Labor involved with
- renewal of a Preferred Callsign will not differ in any way from
- the renewal of a non-preferred callsign, therefor the Committee
- believes no additional labor charge should be incurred by the
- licensee.
-
- During the course of this proceeding people filed comments with
- the Commission asking why those with Preferred Callsigns have to
- pay recurring, yearly fees. The Commission's response may well
- be to ask that ALL amateurs pay such user fees. Without
- question, this would be viewed as an undesirable outcome to such
- a question.
-
- Additional factors supporting the one-time administrative fee
- position include the time value of money and reduction in
- administrative workload.
-
- The Government benefits by collecting the entire fee at the
- beginning of the process rather than on a yearly basis or at the
- end of the license term. The one-time fee concept would also
- greatly reduce the Commission's fee collection workload by not
- having to administrate an ongoing fee collection process at
- license renewal time.
-
- 3. Holders of previous Preferred Callsigns
-
- The Committee recommends a statement that any callsign held prior
- to the start of this program shall be considered a sequential
- callsign and exempt from any administrative fee associated with
- this program.
-
- 4. Phase-in Periods and Priorities
-
- The Committee recommends a phase-in period to allow the
- Commission a reasonable chance to process the expected heavy
- initial submission of applications.
-
- Conversations with Commission Information Services staff in
- Gettysburg indicate that no additional application processing
- manpower will be used to work on Preferred Callsign applications.
- The same four people who process all new and renewal form 610s
- will be processing the new form 610-V as well. Therefore, a
- phase in period would be wise to prevent severe overload at
- Gettysburg.
-
- Phase-in periods may be perceived as "gates". As each succeeding
- gate opens it will admit applications from a new group as well as
- any group allowed by a previous gate.
-
- Gate one would allow applications from holders of previous
- callsigns who have lost their original call through failure to
- renew at the proper time or having moved from one location to
- another mandating a change of callsign. A callsign could be
- recovered even if it did not match the applicants current
- permanent address.
-
- Included in this group would be those who wish to obtain the
- callsign of a direct family member. The term direct, as used
- here, would only include a brother, sister, spouse, son or
- daughter of the original licensee.
-
- The Committee recommends that clubs with lapsed club licenses
- also be allowed to recoup those callsigns in the first group.
-
- The second gate would include all Extra Class licensees and those
- enfranchised by gate one.
-
- The third gate would include all Advanced Class licensees and
- those enfranchised in gates one and two.
-
- At this point the system would be thrown open to anyone else
- desiring a Preferred Callsign.
-
- 5. Club Applications
-
- Clubs wishing to obtain the callsign of a silent key member could
- do so in the second gate period if the trustee of the club were
- an extra class licensee. This should present no problem for most
- legitimate clubs. Similar logic would apply to trustees with
- other classes of license.
-
- The Committee believes family members should have first choice of
- a silent key's call. Should no family member desire the call,
- the club should have next choice.
-
- It is been the League position that the number of members of a
- club be raised to at least 4 for a group to be considered a
- "radio club". This proceeding again emphasizes the need for the
- Commission to raise the number of members needed to ensure
- legitimacy and prevent fraud.
-
- The League's Part 97 Rewrite Committee suggested raising the
- number of members required in Part 97.5(d)(2) from two to four.
- The Committee recommends this proceeding be used as an
- opportunity to restate that position.
-
- The Committee recommends that, for purposes of defining a
- legitimate club in Part 97.5(d)(2), the number of members be
- raised from the current 2 to at least 4.
-
- 6. Vacated Callsigns
-
- As proposed in the NPRM, a call is considered "vacated" when its
- previous owner has been assigned a Preferred Callsign. The
- Commission would put the vacated call into the available pool
- immediately. The Committee believes this could lead to many
- problems. As an alternative...
-
- The Committee recommends that the vacated callsign not be
- reassigned for a two year period.
-
- Incoming QSL bureaus, especially, have noted that many services
- count on the user callsign being correct. An instant
- reassignment of a prior held call to a new licensee could cause
- multiple problems for volunteer service groups, such as the
- bureaus.
-
- Another consideration is "trafficking in callsigns" The
- Committee believes that a two year hold on a vacated callsign
- would preclude questionable practices arising in which one
- amateur would persuade another to change their call so the first
- amateur could acquire the desired call. This practice could open
- up a new area of fraud allowing people to submit questionable
- documents showing that amateur B wanted to give up a call so
- amateur A could acquire it.
-
- 7. Number of Choices on Form 610-V
-
- The Committee recommends that the number of choices be increased
- to 25.
-
- This should reduce processing and correspondence time if the 10
- requested callsigns are all unavailable. The applicant need not
- fill in all 25 callsigns, but it would increase the chance of a
- positive match if the applicant had 25 choices.
-
- 8. Retirement of Callsigns
-
- A small number of commenters stated the belief that re-issuance
- of callsigns of silent keys would be somehow disrespectful. The
- Committee does not share this viewpoint.
-
- While the Committee was sensitive to the fond memory the silent
- key's friends might have, the callsign is really the "property"
- of the Commission and is part of the condition of grant to the
- licensee. In essence it is "loaned" to the licensee for the term
- of the license. It would, therefore, become eligible for re-
- issuance once the renewal grace period had expired.
-
- If an individual passed away just before license renewal time it
- would be at least two years before the callsign became available
- for re-issue at the end of the renewal grace period. A more
- probable condition would be that the licensee would pass on in
- the middle of the license term. Then the callsign would not
- become available for between four and seven years after the
- amateur passed on.
-
- Should an individual, club or group think highly of the deceased,
- nothing precludes finding an inactive ham and asking the
- individual to change callsigns by requesting the silent key's old
- callsign through this program.
-
- 9. Out of Area Callsign Issuance
-
- The Committee recommends that within the lower 48 states the
- Commission continue issuing callsigns with the number within the
- callsign relative to the applicants current permanent address.
- This recommendation would be for Preferred Callsigns as well as
- sequentially generated callsigns.
-
- A quick historical retrospective is in order at this point. One
- of the original reasons for breaking the continental United
- States into ten callsign districts was to help the FCC's Field
- Operations Bureau begin to locate an emitter for enforcement
- purposes.
-
- Today's state-of-the-art direction finding does not need to know
- which callsign district the emitter is located in. This fact was
- part of the rationale the Commission used in eliminating the
- requirement for a licensee to sign "portable" when away from the
- licensed station location. Therefore, the Commission doesn't
- appear to care whether the a licensee has a district indicator
- consonant with the operators station location.
-
- However, anecdotal evidence in letters and on survey forms
- indicates that, contrary to the Commission's technological needs,
- most amateurs have grown accustomed to the practice of callsign
- numbers indicating which area of the country the licensee is in
- and would like the tradition continued. The callsign number
- gives the operators on each end of the circuit an immediate
- indication of where the other is and "in which direction to turn
- the beam."
-
- Therefore, the Committee recommends this tradition of issuing
- callsigns with the number within the callsign consonant with the
- applicants current permanent address be continued.
-
- 10. Outside of the Continental United States
-
- Amateurs in Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, the American Virgin
- Islands and in the Pacific have shared their concern with
- Directors Wyatt and Butler about amateurs being able to acquire
- callsigns from their area without being a current permanent
- resident. This is a valid concern because in some areas, notably
- Hawaii, the KH6 callsign block is nearly gone. Most of it has
- been assigned to visitors and those who are now deceased.
-
- While the re-issuance of callsigns of deceased amateurs will ease
- the problem, the Committee recommends that outside the
- continental 48 states applicants be required to furnish the
- Commission with some form of documentation indicating permanent
- residency. Visitors would continue to use the portable
- designator, thereby not depleting a callsign pool available only
- to permanent residents.
-
- 11. Specific Comments on the NPRM
-
- New 97.19 (c) Substitute the following:
-
- Each request for a renewal of a operator/primary or club station
- license retaining a call sign assigned under the vanity call sign
- system shall be made on FCC form 610-V. The form must be
- submitted [eliminate "with the proper fee"] to the address
- specified in the Private Radio Services Fee Filing Guide. To
- renew the license without retaining a vanity call sign, the
- applicant must use FCC form 610 as specified in Section 97.21.
-
- New 97.19(f)(3)
-
- A call sign that is vacated by the licensee is [add "not"]
- available to the vanity call sign system [add "for 2 years
- following the expiration of the license"].
-
- Sentence Added to the end of 97.19(g)
-
- A callsign previously held by the applicant, available to the
- vanity callsign system but expired, may be requested without
- regard to license class group or current permanent residence.
-
- New 97.19(g)(1)
-
- The applicant must request that the call sign held be canceled
- and provide a list of up to [change 10 to 25] call signs in order
- of preference. The list will automatically end with the call
- sign vacated as the [change "tenth" to "twenty sixth"] choice.
-
- New 97.19(g)(2)
-
- The first available call sign from the applicant's list will be
- assigned. When none of those call signs are available, the call
- sign vacated by the applicant will be reassigned [add "and the
- administrative fee returned".]
-
- New 97.5(d)(2)
-
- A club station license (FCC Form 660) issued to the person by the
- FCC. A club station license is issued only to the person who is
- the license trustee designated by an officer of the club. The
- trustee must hold an FCC-issued Amateur Extra, Advanced, General
- or Technician operator license. The club must be composed of at
- least [change "two" to "four"] persons and must have a name, a
- document of organization, management and a primary purpose
- devoted to amateur service activities consistent with this Part.
-
- 12. Questions Posed in the Discussion Section
-
- In paragraph 5 the Commission asks about alternative ways to file
- form 610-V.
-
- The Committee recommends that the same, simple, ASCII format used
- in League contest filings be recommended to the Commission IS
- group as a starting point for electronic filing
-
- In Paragraph 6 the NPRM requests comments on distribution of
- available callsign information.
-
- The Committee recommends that a League computer and modem, or
- HIRAM be made available, in the short term, as a distribution
- method with the Commission filing at least weekly updates or
- sending a disk or disks detailing callsign availability.
-
- Alternately, for-profit data services, such as Compuserve's
- Hamnet forum, could be used by the Commission to make current
- callsign information available.
-
- 13. Special Event Callsigns
-
- The Committee recommends that 1 X 1 callsigns, such as K2A, be
- made available for limited duration special events of national
- significance.
-
- There are likely to be few special event stations of national
- significance operating at any one time within a single call
- district. Therefore, the issuance of a 1 X 1 callsign should be
- possible without measurably adding to the Commission's workload.
-
- 14. Final Comments
-
- The Chairman would like to thank the Directors Butler, Comstock,
- Kanode and Wyatt, EVP Sumner and VEC Department Manager Jahnke
- for the hard work they did in such a compressed time period.
-
- A statistical treatment of the data used to derive the
- Committee's position will be sent as an enclosure to this report.
-
- Respectfully Submitted,
-
- Stephen Mendelsohn, WA2DHF, Chairman
- --
- ========================================================
- Marc B. Grant Voice Mail: 214-246-1150
- marcbg@netcom.com Amateur Radio N5MEI
- marcbg@esy.com Computer & Information Security
- =======================================================
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Apr 94 14:55:27 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!news@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: FT-530 mod (AGAIN!!)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Howdy,
-
- ***** Here is another request for the FT-530 mod. *****
-
- I know it's been beat to death on this group and I previously had it
- promised to me by a friend, but he lost his information.
-
- So, I'll appreciate your help.
-
- Please reply to me at
-
- derry@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
-
- or J. H. Derry
- 810 S. 34th Street
- Terre Haute IN 47803
-
- Thanks in advance.
-
- GL es 73 de Jack, K9CUN
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Apr 94 13:56:01 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!yuma!galen@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: Heinous? hardly
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <phb.766181648@melpar> phb@syseng1.melpar.esys.com (Paul H. Bock) writes:
- >ostroy@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Dan Ostroy ) writes:
- >>arbiter of "good operating technique" I'll keep an open mind.
- >
- > Traffic nets exist to handle traffic - period. It is one of
- >the few facets of "amateur" radio which is most efficient if done
- >"professionally." Therefore, IMHO "good operating practice" on a
- >traffic net means running it like a professional (military, wire
- >service, maritime service) net. That may be hard for some folks
- >to swallow, but there it is.
-
- Maybe that's why some nets around here are called 'Traffic and Information
- Net'.
- You can argue for all the professionalism you want, but the fact remains
- that we are ***amateurs*** and unless your checkin procedure is flexible
- enough for someone who hasn't checked in before, you'll still have the
- problems you're complaining about. Net control still has to ask a few
- checkins for fills, so doesn't 'good operating practice' imply that you
- should take into account the inexperienced operators?
-
- And if you're in such a big hurry, there's always the telephone.
-
- Galen, KF0YJ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Apr 94 18:11:32 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!cats.ucsc.edu!haynes@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: Katashi Nose, KH6IJ, 1916-1994
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- M
- References: <Co7Gu4.oE@news.hawaii.edu>
- Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
-
- Sorry to hear of his death. I used to work him - he got into RTTY in a big
- way for a while back in the late '50s - I was at W5YM at University of
- Arkansas at the time - he always put in a big RTTY signal.
- --
- haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
- haynes@cats.bitnet
-
- "Ya can talk all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
- "No it aint! But ya gotta know the territory!"
- Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Apr 94 19:05:44 GMT
- From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@hplabs.hp.com
- Subject: Katashi Nose, KH6IJ, 1916-1994
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Jeffrey Herman (jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu) wrote:
-
- : KATASHI NOSE, KH6IL, DIES AT AGE 78
- ^---- J
-
- : By Harold Morse, Star-Bulletin.
-
- : Katashi Nose, Star-Bulletin radio columnist for 50 years and a
- : retired university of Hawaii physics professor, died Thursday
- : in St. Francis Hospital. He was 78.
-
- It would be hard to find a CW operator anywhere in the world who
- has been active on the DX bands for long without working KH6IJ.
- I never met the gentleman, but those who have tell me he was a
- very nice guy -- a real "ham's ham." He will be sorely missed.
-
- AL N1AL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Apr 94 19:18:34 GMT
- From: unix.sri.com!headwall.Stanford.EDU!abercrombie.Stanford.EDU!paulf@hplabs.hp.com
- Subject: Katashi Nose, KH6IJ, 1916-1994
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I recall working Katashi a few years ago on 15. A real nice guy to chat with.
- He'll be sorely missed.
-
-
- --
- -=Paul Flaherty, N9FZX | "Just name a hero, and I'll prove he's a bum."
- ->paulf@Stanford.EDU | -- Col. Gregory "Pappy" Boyington
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Apr 94 20:20:40 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!gtewd.mtv.gtegsc.com!reina@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: Need PL Tone Gen Design
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Looking for a design for a simple PL tone generator to use with old crystal 2
- meter rig. All suggestions appreciated.
-
- Thanks,
-
- Andy
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Apr 94 10:46:34 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Working AO-21 with TH-78A
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello everyone,
-
- I am interested in working AO-21 using the 435.015 uplink
- frequency. However, I have a kenwood TH-78A and have not been able to
- enter that frequency, the closest I can get is 435.0125. This is because
- the freq. steps that can be selected on UHF are: 10, 12.5 20 or 25 kHz.
- My questions are: can I work AO-21 on 435.0125?
- How can I modify the TH-78A so it can transmit on 435.015?
-
- Your answers to these questions and general comments about working
- AO-21 will be greatly appreciated.
- Hope to hear you on AO-21 soon!
-
- 73 & DX de XE1RGL Guillermo
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Apr 94 14:00:15 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!yuma!galen@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2np47d$ps5@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, <2o407j$p4f@meaddata.meaddata.com>, <LEVIN.94Apr8130821@medea.bbn.com>ma
- Subject : Re: Checks, as in $$$
-
- In article <LEVIN.94Apr8130821@medea.bbn.com> levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) writes:
- >In article <2o407j$p4f@meaddata.meaddata.com> ruthy@meaddata.com (RuthAnn Todd) writes:
- > |> I wonder if the ARRL has any kind of similar "HAM RADIO CHECK" printing
- > |> service?
- > The ARRL is a service organization...perhaps your
- > idea would be best addressed by the numerous printers that do QSL
- > printing. You are aware that check paper is usually a different
- > type/quality. If it is a profitable idea, I'm sure someone will take
- > the lead.
-
- I bought checks from one of those coupons in the Sunday paper. They
- printed my call right after my name AND put a slash in the zero!!!
-
- I don't know why I'd put an ARRL logo on 'em, I rarely write checks to hams.
- Galen, KF0YJ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Apr 94 15:34:41 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!dgg.cr.usgs.gov!bodoh@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2np47d$ps5@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, <2o407j$p4f@meaddata.meaddata.com>, <LEVIN.94Apr8130821@medea.bbn.com>oh
- Subject : Re: Checks, as in $$$
-
- In article <LEVIN.94Apr8130821@medea.bbn.com>, levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) writes:
- |> In article <2o407j$p4f@meaddata.meaddata.com> ruthy@meaddata.com (RuthAnn Todd) writes:
- |> |> I wonder if the ARRL has any kind of similar "HAM RADIO CHECK" printing
- |> |> service?
- |> |>
- |> |> And if not, why not?
- |>
- |> Maybe I'm not getting the point of this the way you intended, Scott,
- |> but why would they? The ARRL is a service organization...perhaps your
- |> idea would be best addressed by the numerous printers that do QSL
- |> printing. You are aware that check paper is usually a different
- |> type/quality. If it is a profitable idea, I'm sure someone will take
- |> the lead.
- |>
- |> If I get what you're asking, check the catalogs of Current Inc. and
- |> Checks In The Mail, both of whom do mail order check printing. It is
- |> likely that they have at least an ARRL logo or some other ham radio
- |> insignia they can imprint on checks, and they'll both take artwork
- |> from you and do a custom job.
- |>
- |> Or did the original poster mean something else?
-
- Some organizations design special checks and then provide the design to a
- check printing company, along with a list of their members. The check
- company offers to sell the checks to the members. There is very little
- expense to the organization, and they benefit from the exposure.
-
- We really do need to foster a positive impression of amateur radio if we
- hope to overcome difficulties such as antenna covenants, etc. I think
- this is something that the ARRL should persue. ARE YOU LISTENING, ARRL?
-
- --
- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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- + USGS/EROS Data Center, Sioux Falls, SD, USA 57198 (605) 594-6830 +
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- + "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends!" EL&P +
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